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What Makes Super Shoes “Super” and Interpreting Results for Individuals with Dr. Wouter Hoogkamer (Researcher, Leader of The 4% Study)
Doctors of Running Podcast, Episode 199

On this episode, Nathan and Matt have the privilege of interviewing Dr. Wouter Hoogkamer about his research on super shoes and how they affect running performance. They discuss what makes a super shoe "super" (the plate, the geometry, the foam, or all three?). They also discuss Wouter's latest writing and research on getting the best results from running research trials. They get Wouter's take on training in super trainers/plated shoes and how they may effect biomechanics. Be sure to listen to this fascinating discussion on super shoes and research!


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About Dr. Wouter Hoogkamer

 Dr. Wouter Hookgamer is a researcher focusing on biomechanics and energetics of human locomotion and running. He currently leads the UMASS Integrative Motion Lab. If you’ve been in the running shoe space, and are listening to this podcast you likely have heard of one of his most “famous” studies colloquially known as “The 4% Study”, which looked at the original Nike Vaporfly and produced results that gave the shoe it’s name. Beyond research, he is a runner and ultra-runner himself and was the founder of the Trail Ultra Mountain Alliance.


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  0:00 - Intro 
3:40 - The Subjective: what's your favorite super shoe? 
8:01 - Wouter's article: The Fallacy of Single Trials 
15:33 - Structuring research to achieve more confident results 
18:47 - Accounting for variabilty in trial results 
21:38 - Defining physiological drift 
26:44 - The risks of using single trials 
38:10 - Wouter's definition of super shoes 
41:40 - The roles of plates, foams, and geometries in super shoes 
55:10 - Wouter's take on super trainers and training in plated shoes 
1:06:36 - Why do some respond to certain shoes and not others? 
1:12:07 - Wrap-up

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