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Wednesday, July 28, 2021

July Round-Up - Comparing Our Mizuno Wave Rider 25 Experiences after 100 Miles


The blur of summer heat is on. As we hit the hottest part of the year in the US, we round out another busy month at Doctors of Running. Not only did we push through eight new reviews, we also got our podcast back in action and started releasing some of our first guest reviewer posts! Usually summer can be a slower time in the running shoe game with big releases coming throughout late fourth quarter through the first two parts of the year, but with some many updates on top of new releases, we've managed to stay incredibly busy. Seven months into the year, we're already approaching our 75th shoe review - note: we did just over 80 in 2020 - and potentially look at 100. Absolutely crazy.

In the meantime, we have another big round-up for you this month, starting with a brand new discussion feature we're slowly rolling out about our experiences in Mizuno's Wave Rider 25. Let us know on our social media what you think of the format and questions you'd like to see our Doctors discuss!


100 Mile Experiences in the Wave Rider 25

We had a unique situation in that both our Chief Editor Matt Klein and Social Media Manager Bach Pham finished out 100 miles in their pairs of the Wave Rider 25. So we decided to take a moment to talk about it and share our experiences!

Bach:
 I remember thinking the first time I went on a run in the Wave Rider 25: "oh, this is a very soft forefoot." The Enerzy being incorporated full-length really delivered what people thought it would; a satisfyingly soft throughout shoe with a lot of inherent stability thanks to their signature plate. What I maybe was not expecting was how flexible this forefoot would be, which is something I really noticed over the 100 miles. I don't know if you've experienced any similar daily trainers Matt, but I can't think of one that really had the amount of flexibility in the forefoot and stability in the heel for everyday running like the Wave Rider 25.



Matt: To echo your comments, I was very surprised on my first run in the Wave Rider 25 at how flexible the forefoot was. I haven't experienced that much flexibility up front in a long time, maybe ever. This has maintained over the +100 miles of use I have on my pair. The MIZUNO ENERZY foam has only slightly firmed up, but the flexibility has remained. This is nice as the shoe breaks in because it feels like it gets more stable the more I run in it. The Wave Plate obviously stabilizes the heel and midfoot very well as usually, but the forefoot was very interesting. Anyone who wears this shoe needs to have very good mobility of their toes. I actually enjoyed it as this was a nice break from rigid forefoot designs of so many shoes with plates, but I often like a little more flexibility for training miles. However, this and the softer MIZUNO ENERZY does make this shoe more of a trainer. Previous versions I could do workouts in, the Rider 25 I cannot. It isn't snappy or fast, but it is great for daily training and getting miles in.

Bach:
From a personal perspective, forefoot flexibility isn't my cup of tea usually. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum and prefer a slightly more rigid forefoot for my daily runs. That being said, once you get out on the road with the Rider miles just get eaten up. The majority of my miles in the Rider have been easy runs and many long runs. I really liked the softness of the forefoot and how the wave plate in the heel helped keep my midfoot feeling stable as I get tired.

One other thing regarding the Enerzy foam: the 25's softness in the forefoot also doesn't really lend itself to workouts. I had a lot of trouble really picking it up the pace comfortably for anything outside of strides. This was a gentle cruiser that is best at eating up miles and less about workouts or intense races. For most people, it'll still likely cover the vast majority of the things you need done in your running without issue

How did you feel about the wear of the Wave Rider? I'm interested in seeing if our experiences differed at all.

Matt:
I was nervous with the softer sole, but have very little wear on the outsole of both shoes. This was surprising to me given how hard I am on shoes. Even the exposed midsole in the midfoot is doing fairly well. Like I mentioned, the MIZUNO ENERZY has firmed up just a little, but continues to provide a fairly consistent ride over the miles. I expect an above average number of miles out of these based on how they are progressing.




Bach
: It's a bit difficult to see with the blue patterned outsole, but from what I'm seeing there's very little wear on my pair as far as the rubber goes. Through the middle of the shoe there is a bit of exposed midsole wrapping around the rubber outsole that's shown a bit of wear, but nothing concerning. I think the Wave Rider will last plenty of miles beyond 100 if you are someone who typically don't bruise your outsoles. I agree that it has firmed up slightly, but still feels soft in general. Out of all of Mizuno's shoes I've tried, it's been the most consistent out of the box and across 100 miles, not getting better or worse. Just a reliable ride.

The last thing I have to say is that it's a very comfortable shoe to wear daily. The Enerzy is soft and the fit in general has some comfortable room in the forefoot which is nice for running around doing errands or if you are on your feet all day. The wave plate provides plenty of support which is nice during a long day on your feet.




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The HOKA Clifton 8 is a daily training option in the neutral category for someone looking for a cushioned neutral ride. The shoe is very lightweight for the amount of cushioning it provides and also provides a great rocker throughout. The heel security isn't great but if someone does not need much stability or security in that region the shoe should do well. The sole is on the stiffer end but the rocker does great with transitions. This is a neutral daily training option that will work as a workhorse. "

Asics Kayano 28 Update by Guest Reviewer Ryan Flugaur (7/20)
Guest reviewer Ryan Flugaur stops in with his second review for DOR! Here's Ryan on the stability of the Kayano 28:

"ASICS does a great job making the Kayano 28 a moderately stable shoe. I say moderately stable because the different sections of the shoe have very different levels of stability. The heel to midfoot is very structured and provides a high level of guidance while the forefoot is soft and very flexible.  So depending on where you need guidance, this shoe may be a good option.  ASICS provides this stability through a variety of measures.  These include: the internal and external heel counter, the DUOMAX posting, the full contact outsole, and the trusstic system. 

By combining these guidance systems, not one feels overpowering and they work well together to provide the support needed.  The DUOMAX post is barely noticeable while the trusstic system is a bit more stiff providing more rigidity in the midfoot.  Being a heel striker, I definitely noticed landing on the stiffer heel as I transitioned to the softer midfoot.   This is due to stability from the external and internal heel counters.  This led the heel to feel too secure for my foot and I was able to feel the medial side of the external heel counter on occasion.  For runners needing rear to midfoot stability, this is a good option, where those who need some guidance through the forefoot may need to look elsewhere." - Ryan

New Balance Rebel V2 Update by Contributor Nathan Brown (7/28)
Here's Nathan on the overall quality of the Rebel during his testing: 

"The Rebel 2 is for people who have stable mechanics and love the new midsole feel, namely soft, lightweight, and bouncy. This shoe might check those three boxes better than any other shoe that came out this year. The Rebel 2 can both do as advertised and help you nail your speed days and workouts, but also bounce along comfortably for easy days. This shoe is flexible, so if you want a bit of ground feel and enjoy flexibility through the forefoot, this is a solid option." - Nathan

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"Let's get two things out of the way. 1. This is one of the most firm shoes that I've tested this year. and 2. It's also my current go-to trainer. There is a dual density midsole. The lower layer, and bulk of the shoe, is Lightstrike EVA. If you haven't ran in Lightsrike before, it's a very firm compound. It doesn't give pop or bounce, or really any soft sensation, it's just kinda "there". A benefit of this is that it really allows the geometric shaping to do it's work. For those who want a soft shoe, this isn't it. But for those who like firmer shoes, like myself and Matt, the Lightstrike provides a platform that, again, allows the shaping of the shoe to do it's work (more on that later)." - Nathan

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