Nike Zoom Pegasus 33 Review

   Today's guest review comes from my good friend and training partner John.  John is a very good engineer and has been my primary running training partner through DPT school.  He is quite the Nike guy and has a ton of experience with the traditional trainers from their line.  He was kind enough to share his thoughts on the Pegasus, which is by far the most frequent shoe I have seen on his feet.  Based on the thousands of miles he has put in this series, here are his thoughts on the current Nike Zoom Pegasus 33.  

   I like the Nike Pegasus. I ran 300+ miles each in the Pegasus 29, Pegasus 31 (700!) and Pegasus 32. I would compare the Pegasus to a mullet hairstyle: Business in the front, Party in the back. That is, Business in the forefoot, Party in the Heel.  Easy runs heel-striking in the Pegasus feels luxuriously forgiving, but accelerate and you’re rewarded with an aggressively resilient and planted feel.  I attribute this versatility to the difference between heel and forefoot materials: The heel features a sizable Zoom Air unit that absorbs and dissipates impact forces, while the forefoot is simple, predictable, uniform EVA “Cushlon” material and blown rubber lugs. The result is a shoe that I’ve comfortably run both 20-mile long runs and mile repeats (a team-mate reportedly ran an entire 5-mile tempo at low-5 minute pace in Pegasus 30s). The Pegasus 31/32 maintained this versatility while introducing a stiffer, more aggressive midsole.  I found the 31 to be a sleeper hit: bland at first, then with continued mileage I learned to appreciated its subtle versatility.  (I actually bought the 31 upon hearing it compared to the Zoom Elite 5/6).  (John has also been known for his love of the Zoom Elite 5/6 and has blown past me in workouts in those while I was wearing much lighter racing flats -Matt)


Sole/Ride:  The Pegasus 33 re-writes this formula to include Zoom Air in the forefoot, and the result is a shoe that feels more mono-purpose. Anywhere you land, Zoom Air is there to absorb and redistribute forces into straight-ahead propulsion that almost feels unstable.  At normal pace the shoe felt pleasantly soft and springy, more in-your-face than the previous year’s subtle and firm ride.  When I picked up the pace during test runs, the ride’s squish-springiness was amplified.  To the 33’s credit, the ride never felt mushy like the old Vomero 7-9, but at quick paces I didn’t feel planted. The shoe felt best when I relaxed into its Air-induced pattern instead of trying to push the pace on my far forefoot.


   Fit aside, the ride is completely different from the Pegasus 31/32. The forefoot Zoom Air unit is aggressively squishy, asserting itself upon first step-in with the alarming sensation that you’re stepping on something alive. Apart from the Air units, the midsole material deforms easier than the firm Pegasus 31/32, but has a more resilient feel than the soft Pegasus 29/30.  On first run, the squishy ride reminded me of the Pegasus 29/30, with an aggressive pop thanks to the forefoot air.  After 3 weeks in the shoe, I’ve decided the ride is a little too monotonously bouncy for my taste.  The Zoom Air unit is a “mechanical” cushion; it provides a pleasing bounce by deforming at a different rate from the surrounding EVA. Since the Zoom Air unit is positioned parallel to the outsole of the Pegasus, it deforms differently depending on which direction force is applied. Compare this with EVA, which is ideally a “homogeneous, isotropic” material that deforms in a uniform fashion across load configurations (beyond simply the shape of the midsole). Expanding the Pegasus’s mechanical cushion into the forefoot pushed my foot into a predictable straight-ahead takeoff pattern much like Mizuno’s wave plate. That said, the Pegasus’s signature ride is a bouncy one whereas Mizuno’s is firm.


   The outsole features a softer blown rubber reminiscent of the 29/30. The decoupled rear-most heel pod now connects to the lateral half of the sole, where the 31/32’s connected to the medial half. After about 75 miles, I’m seeing moderate wear on the outsole material.  It’s worth noting that while all of Nike’s Zoom Air trainers (Vomero, Odyssey, Structure and Elite) now feature forefoot Zoom Air, the Pegasus 33’s ride is distinct from its comrades. The Vomero 11 has a soft but resilient feel with less assertive pop than the Pegasus 33. The Structure 18’s ride (REVIEW) is unmistakably firm, posted and sealed with a distinct pop from forefoot Zoom Air. The Zoom Elite 8 is a firm, aggressive trainer that has all of its cushioning focused on the Zoom Air unit in the forefoot (whereas landing on the heel feels like landing on cardboard/concrete).


Upper/Fit:  Upper construction and fit is very similar to that of the 32, that is, generous and wide through the toe-box.  Bells and whistles include extra lace eyelets returning from hiatus during the 32 model year.  This is important because the aggressive Zoom Air ride on the Pegasus 33 feels most stable when the shoe is wrapped tight and lace-locked to reduce slip.  This comes as an interesting change as I purposely laced previous models loose to accommodate an Achilles injury.  Also returning from the Pegasus 31 is excellent reflectivity that wraps from the heel counter to the lateral and medial Swooshes, and on my special Jungle color-way, the Flywire.  This is the most reflective Pegasus yet.  Fit is generous, so that a pain in my 3rd toe aggravated by the Pegasus 32 has been absent for the 3 weeks since switching over.


   A laminated overlay on the lace eyelets is identical to that on the 32.  The Flywire shoelace loops reaching up from the midsole are the Nylon variety found on the 32, rather than the new flat ribbon-style ones found on the 2016 Structure, Vomero and Odyssey models.  I experienced Flywire failure on the LunarTempo and Zoom Elite 6, but the Pegasus 32’s are pristine after 300+ miles.  The heel counter is identical to previous models with a hard plastic cup extending halfway up, wrapped with a plush collar.  The heel counter is surprisingly forgiving, though this model seems to invite more aggressive lacing and hence a tighter heel.  The weird round bulge of the Peg 32’s heel counter has been thankfully smoothed out.


Thoughts as a DPT: Having done multiple gait analysis on John both throughout our time training together and while he was wearing this shoe, I know his gait fairly well.  That said, there are clear differences comparing his gait, specifically during loading and propulsion phases, between the Nike Pegasus 32 and 33.  I had John run in both while taking a look at his stride and was immediately able to notice an increased amount of ground contact time during stance in the Pegasus 33.  Additionally, John's propulsive/toe-off phase seemed more wobbly and when compared to the Pegasus 32 looking like he was running through mud.  This was especially evident during high speed/sprint paces.  This again speaks to the mechanical properties of the forefoot.  Having the pure EVA and waffle outsole of the 32 gives a very consistent and stable surface to push into during terminal stance/propulsion.  The forefoot needs to be very stable during this time as it is trying to transmit forces from a contracting gastrocsolues complex (soleus initially and then gastrocnemius more as the knee straights because it is a two (some might argue three... but that's a discussion for another time) joint muscle) through the plantar fascia (and other ligaments), then through the metatarsals and finally controlled through initially eccentric then concentric activity of the long flexor tendons of the toes (flexor hallucis longus, flexor digitorum longus).  This all is usually transmitted through the first and fifth metatarsal phalangeal joints, which have to be stabilized by the foot intrinsic muscles keeping the transverse metarasal arch up along with the peroneus longus stabilizing the first MTP joint and the posterior tibialis in the midfoot keeping the foot supinated to lock it out.  The foot needs to be stable and resupinate during this, which locks the midfoot for a stable surface to propel off of.  And that's just barely scratching the surface of ankle/foot mechanics during propulsion.
   The short version of this?  The foot needs to be stable during toe-off/propulsion to correctly direct forces in the right direction.  It's a very complex system that is easily messed with.  Adding a soft Zoom Unit in this area can mess with this, particularly when the unit will throw you in whatever direction your biomechanical deficiencies may be pointing.  The forefoot Zoom Air unit is very prominent in the Nike Pegasus 33 and may benefit from being reduced or firmed up to provide increased stability to the forefoot.  The wide platform is fantastic, however the soft and unpredictable transfer of force causes the body to have to put more work into stabilizing the foot and ankle rather than letting forces be transmitted appropriately.  The joints of the ankle and foot are very important to the body as they are the base of the entire system.  Running is a high impact and high force activity.  The body will defend itself against instability by sacrificing speed for protection.  This occurs through all the muscles firing to stabilize rather than appropriate motor patterns kicking in to appropriately generate forces in the right direction.  This can be observed very easily in new runners, who are more likely to have short and stiff strides because their bodies have not yet figured out what to do with these high forces.  As the body (hopefully) develops better strength in the instrinsic muscles, the larger muscles can be used for propulsion and speed rather than being recruited to stabilize.  This does not always happen and is a very complex mix of neurologic factors including motor learning, motor control and more along with strength, training and orthopedic factors. 


Conclusion: On the upside, I appreciate the improved upper, toe-box volume, reflectivity and additional eyelets. On the downside, the new ride is a departure from the Pegasus formula.  I have standard-width feet and the fit is very comfortable.  I would recommend this shoe to fans of resiliently bouncy shoes like the Brooks Ghost, Launch and Adidas Boost trainers.

Shoes I would compare the Pegasus 33 to:

1. Brooks Launch
2. Adidas Supernova Glide
3. Nike Pegasus 29/30
4. Nike Zoom Elite 5/6

Individuals The Nike Pegasus 33 Would Work For:  Based on what I observed from John's running gait, the Pegasus 33 would be best for those runners with very stable and neutral lower extremity mechanics looking for softer forefoot cushioning.  Those with high arched and/or stiff feet (many times pes cavus foot types) may enjoy the increased cushioning and shock absorption in the forefoot if they land toward the front.  Individuals who rearfoot, midfoot and forefoot strike will enjoy this shoe if they enjoy the softer Air Zoom unit feel.  Every individual is slightly different, so if there is any doubt, I highly suggest trying these on at your local running retail store before buying them.  -Matt

Thanks for reading and don't forget to Tack On!

These shoes were a bought for full US retail price.  I (Matt) put at least 75 miles on every pair of shoes before I review them (except racing flats which I put on at least 25 miles).  Currently John has somewhere in the 150-200 mile range on his first pair of Pegasus 33s and hundreds (if not thousands) of miles on previous versions of the Nike Pegasus as mentioned earlier.

As always, the views expressed on this blog are exclusively our own.  

-Matt Klein, DPT

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  1. Thanks for the review. I've really enjoyed the Peg 32 - probably because of the wide base on the forefoot and responsive cushioning. I'm a mid/fore foot striker so don't care what material/technology is used in the heel. However the 32 seems to provide a reasonable balance for me for a daily trainer use - I need some cushioning for long runs and I can do slightly faster tempo runs even though it's not the lightest shoe.

    I've now read 2 reviews of the 33 and the instability in the forefoot has me concerned. Historically my running style doesn't work well with overblown gels or cushioning that cause instability and my calves to work harder to stabalise on foot strike and toe-off.

    Some clarifications - is John a heel striker? This would put into context thoughts on the Peg and Zoom Elite.
    If the Zoom Elite is stable - is is stable for heel strikers only - since it appears to use the same zoom unit in the forefoot - or is the forefoot cushioning different in the zoom elite.

    I've bought 2 new peg 32s but obviously now considering what options I have in future for a daily trainer. Is the zoom elite a possibility? The 8mm drop would be nice - but not at the expense of an unstable forefoot similar to the Peg 33.

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    1. John tends to land more towards the front of his foot than the back. Landing on the heel during initial contact is rare for him. My experience with the Zoom Elite 8 was that it was fairly stable due to what appeared to be a further embedded forefoot zoom unit. In the Pegasus 33, the Zoom Air unit was extremely noticeable and almost felt like a bubble/water balloon under your foot. The Zoom Elite may work better for you as the unit provided great cushioning and rebound, but seems to be integrated into the midsole better. I personally felt like the Zoom Elite 8 had a similar forefoot feel to the peg 32 with a little more rebound. The heel of the Zoom Elite is very stiff and does not feel great landing on (although I am someone who tends to land farther back).

      Based on what you are describing, I would consider the Zoom Elite 8, but would highly recommend trying them before buying.

      Hope that helps! Thanks for reading!

      -Matt Klein, DPT

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    2. Matt, thanks that's perfect, it was actually my local running store that mentioned the Zoom Elite so it's interesting to compare opinions. Sounds like they may be an option and yes of course I'll definitely try before I buy. Although increasingly I find that the small amount of time at the running store is nothing compared to spending an hour on my feet regularly with the prospective new purchases. Only then can I make real judgements.

      I'm not tied to Nike, I use the Adios 2 for speed work and have tried many other brands but I find the Pegasus works my calves in a way they can tolerate right now - the Adios tend to focus much lower into the soleus which I think needs to build more strength and tolerance - slowly - before I can use these more widely.

      The new Streak 6 also looks potentially interesting.

      Thanks again for your insightful reviews - always a very useful and interesting perspective.

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  2. Matt, I've been using the Saucony Ride 8s after rave reviews and a professional recommendation but they've been just horrible. My feet are never relaxed in them and there is a huge amount of energy which my feet fight at all times coming upward through the sole! This would be my first pair of Nike shoes. I do a lot of front foot orientated HIIT such as stadium step running (so I want the front cushioning to be way above average) along with walking and wondered if you thought these would foot the bill for a light neutral (65kg) runner?

    Many thanks

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    1. Hello Al.

      I'm not quite understanding the concept of fighting energy coming upward through the sole. However, for what you are doing the Pegasus 33 might work. I would also consider the Zoom Elite 8 if you are specifically for that forefoot Air/protection. The Elite will be a little lighter and more agile, but both are good shoes. The new Air bag in the Pegasus 33 is pretty soft. John found it a little much, but you may like it with what you are doing. The Pegasus will fit fairly normal width feet (although the upper does stretch a bit) while the Zoom elite 8 will fit a bit snugger throughout. Saucony's forefoot cushioning usually has been a bit lacking for me, so I understand. Try the Pegasus 33 as it is one of the few shoes with forefoot specific cushioning. The nice part about the Forefoot Air is that it will be both cushioned and responsive (which hopefully shoe fit with your training). So definitely try them first, because while they sound like they may work, make sure they fit your feet and work with your stride. Since I have never met you, I have no idea what your true mechanics or gait look like.

      Thanks for reading and let me know how things go!

      -Matt Klein, DPT

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  4. Hi Matt,
    Many many thanks for the help/advice. You must be crazy busy so I sincerely appreciate it. It's hard to describe what I mean in the Ride 8s and I've had Mizuno, Asics and NB over the years. Have to say I have never experienced anything like it in a shoe! At the end of a brisk 6km walk my feet are killing me but the sensation is like a constant battle with the shoe as if there is this stressful energy puching up throughout. Like I said, hard to describe :)

    I will check out the other model you recommended whilst I'm in my local shop.

    Many thanks again. And I will let you know how it works out. May help others who do similar exercise not just running!

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  5. Matt, I recently purchased the 33's as I loved the previous versions of the Pegasus and have run in them for years. While they were softer in the forefoot, they seemed "slower" (not sure how else to explain it). I am a heel striker and enjoyed the feeling of being propelled forward in the older versions. That being said, during my 3rd run in the 33's, I started experiencing a sharp pain in my left calf about 1 1/2 miles into a slightly up paced run and had to stop (tried to stretch it out and start running again but the pain continued). While feeling slower in these shoes on the first 2 runs of 9 and 6.5 miles I didn't feel any discomfort/pain until today. Could the different midsoles have contributed/caused the injury? If so, not sure what to do with the shoes as I can't afford a different pair anytime soon. Any advice/insight on this would be appreciated. Thanks

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    1. Hey Patrick.

      As a disclaimer, I have not evaluated you and do not know your full history, so I can't really say that caused the calf pain. HOWEVER, John experienced the same thing in terms of the shoe feeling slower and I observed it during his running gait. It seems like the forefoot AIR ended up making the forefoot softer rather than more responsive, as evident by John's drastically increased ground contact time, increased intrinsic movement of his ankle and lower leg as well as slower running speed. The short version of that is he looked like he was running through mud when we compared his stride to running in the Pegasus 31.

      So if you are someone that has an unstable forefoot, a collapsed transverse arch in the forefoot, or especially a weak peroneaus longus (in addition to a weak posterior tibialis), the calf will kick in to attempt to stabilize the foot. When you place extra demands on a muscle beyond what it is normally capable of doing, (ie the calf is really supposed to be a mover, not a stabilizer. Now it has to do both), that's where overuse injuries occur.

      So perhaps your calf has been trying to do too much. Do you have this issue in any other shoe?

      If you haven't had this issue before and it's only with this shoe, check ebay. You can usually find prior versions, especially of the Pegasus, for fairly cheap.

      Or it might be a very good time to work on your intrinsic muscle strength of the foot via towel crunches, toe raises as well as working on your single leg stability and balance. Do not neglect strength and stability work. Something as simple as trying to maintain good alignment with single leg balance is a powerful balance and core exercise (and if you want to make it really fun, do it with your eyes closed. But be safe obviously. Stay next to a counter with your hands ready).

      Hope that helps. I'm hearing very similar things from many people. I think Nike needs to integrate the forefoot air into the midsole better like the Zoom Elite 8. Instead that air bag is WAY to intrusive into the foot. Hoping that gets fixed in version 34.

      Thanks for reading.

      -Matt Klein, DPT

      NOTE: The above constitutes as general advice and SHOULD NOT replace true medical care. I have not evaluated you in any form and cannot treat you over the internet. I highly suggest seeing your local running physical therapist or medical professional to evaluate your issue if it is becoming a major problem. (I have to say this).

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  6. Matt,
    Thank you for the quick and detailed response. This is the first time I have had this issue in my 25+ years of running which is why I was questioning the shoes.

    Besides having Fred Flintstone shaped feet, my gait and arches are normal with no pronation of any type. I'll try the stability and strength exercises once the pain subsides hopefully in a couple of days. If it doesn't diminish or gets worse I will go to a doctor for a more in-depth analysis. Until then I will stop running and hope for the best (maybe even search online for an older, cheaper Pegasus model).

    By the way, I agree about incorporating the forefoot air into the midsole better. Too bad Nike thought they needed to fix something that wasn't broke.

    Thanks again for your response/help. I appreciate it.
    Pat

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  7. Ive ran 3 marathons and one half marathon in the Ghost 8s. I get about 300 miles out of them. Ive been looking to switch. So ive heard good things about the Pegasus 33. I went into a running store explaining whqt i needed and they gave me the Launch 3 and the Zoom 33 in Wide. I am 5'11" about 185 pounds and size 13 ft. I tried the Launch on and thought WOW. I tried the 33s on and both felt great.
    So ive been looking for a lighter shoe for both training and marathons. I guess this shoe is similar in weight to the Ghost 8s? I am a mid foot striker.

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    1. Hello thirdwill>

      I have enjoyed both the Launch and Pegasus series. I have found that the Pegasus 33 is more stable and responsive whereas the Launch 3 is softer. I think you will do well in either shoe and would go by which one fits your foot better. As I have never met you or evaluated your foot, I cannot tell you which one fits your foot better. Only you will know that. I personally prefer the Pegasus 33 upper as it does have some stretch but holds the foot nicely.

      Hope that helps.

      -Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT

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  8. I have a Pegasus 32 us-11(D) which now seems to be slightly tight in the toe box.i can make slightly above 1/2 thumb width gap.Should I go for us-11 or us-12 in the Pegasus 33?

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    1. It fits just slightly longer; the shoes are identical in outside length, but because the heel collar is less aggressive, I noticed more room upfront for the same size (about a thumbs width @ 34 versus a finger's width @ 33), likely because my foot isn't pushed towards the front. Similarly, because the Peg 33 re-introduced the additional lace eyelets, the fit is more secure at the heel, buying more space in the toebox. This alleviated some irritation of my 4th toe that occurred me during my time in the 32. Hope this helps! So you may want to go with your normal size. As always check!

      Hope that helps and thanks for reading!

      -John

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  10. Hi Matt and John. Love reading your commentary. So if I loved the 29 (size 10) for distance running, am I reading your eval correctly that the 33 may feel better for that usage than the 31/32 because the 33 is softer in the forefoot? Would a size 10 probably still be the best fit in the 33? Thank you.

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    1. Hello.

      I would still go with your normal size for the current iteration of the Pegasus. I'm not sure I would say the forefoot is softer necessarily, but the forefoot air does add additional protection farther forward over longer miles. I have not had any issues on longer distances with the Pegasus 33 so would highly suggest it.

      The Peg 33 does have a slightly lower drop and is still firmer than the Peg 29, but I think you may still enjoy the shoe given that it is a bit softer than the 31/32.

      Hope that helps and thanks for reading.

      -Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT

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  11. Hello Matt,
    during my first three runs about 6 - 10 km I experienced a "special" feeling under my right forefoot, so I can really notice the outline of the air zoom unit. Did you feel the same or something like this? Thanks Stefan

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    1. Hey Stefan. John noticed the same thing with the new Zoom unit. I did not as much. I also tend to load the posterior section of the shoe much more. That feeling per John does go away after 100-160km.

      Hope that helps.

      -Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT

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  12. Hi Matt,

    You Mention that you immeadiately noticed an increased GCT was in John's running style. This was by pure observation or confirmed by running?

    I am just wondering because I have the pegassus 33 and the Brooks launch Which I like for the long hauls, but for speed I usually use Saucony Type A or NB 1600 V2. At first sight I didnt notice too much difference in GCT's in the connect files using a footpod and HRM2. But usually it is like comparing apple and pears since I use the shoes at different speeds. Biut maybe it is worth a closer inspection.

    Patrick Smit

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    1. Hey Patrick.

      This was by observation, although it is my job as a Doctor of Physical Therapy to notice these things. Different people will also respond very different to different shoes. For a true measure you would likely need to compare each shoe at recovery vs workout paces given the different uses. I had John run at an easy pace and a sprint and noticed increased ground contact time for both compared to the Pegasus 32. That could be due to the increased cushioning from the forefoot zoom unit, but I would need to watch his transition and full gait cycle in slow motion to really see that. My eyes are not that good yet. Give me another 10 years and they will.

      -Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT

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  13. Hi Matt,

    Just a quick update on your recommendation. Went with a pair of Nike Vomero 10's feeling marginally plusher cushion wise than the Pegasus 33's however, it was splitting hairs kind of plush and I've since bought a pair of the 33's as well. They are both tough,durable and cushioned well for front foot impact HIIT training so thank you again. I am adding another pair of 33's so I can rotate. Very happy and now a Nike convert :)

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    1. Hey Al.

      Glad you are enjoying both shoes. The Vomeros are supposed to be the more plush ride of the two, but oddly enough several iterations have had the two ride very similar. The current iterations of the Pegasus should ride firmer.

      Glad you are enjoying them.

      -Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT

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  14. I'm not a great runner, but I greatly enjoy running 2-5k several times a week. I've relied on the Peg31s for years and looked forward to the 33s. Within weeks of using the 33 I rolled my ankles twice in other casual walking shoes. I tumbled once rolling my ankle in the 33s. My casual shoes, training, terrain has not changed. I appreciated your commentary on the 33s. I never liked the new feel under my forefoot of the 33. I can't help but feel it's played a role in my ankle and calf instability. Swapping back to 31s!

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    1. Thanks for reading!

      The new Peg 34 are similar, so stock up on the 31s and 32s!

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  15. Hi Matt,

    I wear pegasus 31 size 28.5 cm. Do you think I can run on pegasus 33 the same size? I am considering to buy 33.

    How does it feel comparing between 31 vs 33.

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    1. The pegasus 31 and 33 fit fairly similarly size wise. The biggest differences lie in the sole with the new forefoot zoom unit. I would definitely try the new version on as some people like the new feeling in the forefoot and others do not.

      Thanks for reading.

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    2. Thanks for the reply and the detailed opinion as DPT, Matt. I've just re-read through the review and must try before buy. Maybe the forefoot feel of peg 33 won't suit me :)

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  16. Hi Matt, I have been a religious user of the Nike Pegasus 32s. I was able to order these online for a while and finally thought I should try the 34s. I did and almost immediately felt shin pain, which I've never felt. I switched back to my old 32s (albeit with a lot of miles on them), and the pain dissipated quickly. Now I'm back to looking for new shoes and it's getting harder to find the 32s online. Do you know of the best equivalent (any brand, any model)? I've heard the Winflo is similar in that it also lacks a forefoot Zoom unit. Before realizing it was the forefoot zoom unit, I tried the following shoes which caused similar shin pain, or a new pain in my knee, which I've also never felt: Brooks Ghost 10 (just very bulky), Nike Air Zoom Elite 9 (holy cow it felt like I was slamming on pavement), Nike Zoom Fly (nearly full on caused shin splints), Hoka Clifton 4 (slight knee pain), Nike Air Zoom Vomero 12 (knee pain). Thanks for your help in advance, Matt. You're officially my last hope! Help (haha) :)

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    1. Hey LJ.

      Similar shoes I can think of would be the Saucony Ride (you may have a similar experience if you are having an issue with what I think you are having), the UA Bandit 3 (depends on who you ask. I felt like they were similar), the 361 Spinject (especially. Smoother ride though) are the big ones off the top of my head.

      Sounds like you need something with a decent heel curve... and perhaps switching to a new shoe that you haven't worn down is bothering you. Hoka's softeness may be too unstable, plus they don't tend to curve at the posterior-lateral heel, they just do straight posterior. The Vomero may be too soft. The Zoom ELite 9 have a strong posterior flare... maybe why you felt like you were slamming the pavement. The Brooks Ghost 10... well that shoe has always felt bulky.

      How about the Brooks Launch? Not as bulky as the ghost?

      Let me know what works! Look for something with posteriorlateral heel flare and a mildly firmer ride...

      -Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT

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